If you have listened to the podcast long enough then you know that I am in love with self-development and especially the Enneagram. So when the concept of Human Design was brought to my attention I was intrigued and wanted to learn more.

This week I am chatting with Kasia Jakarsezian who is a Human Design expert with Mission Recruit. She is helping me navigate my own Human Design and how it relates to my business. Listen in and see how Human Design can help you as well! 

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Hey there and welcome to episode 159 of the Girl Means Business Podcast. Now, if you’ve listened to this show for a while or maybe you follow me over on Instagram, then you know I have a deep love for the Enneagram. I am an Enneagram seven through and through. And while I fully believe that the Enneagram is a great assessment and a great tool for helping us to dive deeper into who we are, I know that it’s not the only tool out there. As a former teacher, I spent many staff development days taking various personality tests to find better ways to work together with team members and communicate better. And they were good. They were helpful, they were insightful, but none of them quite fit me the way that the Enneagram did. Now, I also realized that Enneagram is just kind of one part of who we are as people. It’s one assessment. So when I learned about this other sort of diagram of who we are, the human design, my interest was piqued. I was like, I would love to know more about this because I’m on this journey to discover as much about myself as I can so that I can become the best version of myself that I can. So when I was approached by today’s guest, Casha, I was like, you are an expert in this human design space. I want to know more about what this is, how it can help us understand ourselves better, how it can help us in our business to become better leaders. What all is human design. So she actually had me kind of do a human design assessment. She sent me the results, and we go through those today in our conversation. It’s all very exciting. It’s very interesting and fascinating. If you’re like me and you like to learn as much as you can about yourself, I highly encourage you to listen to this episode and then go to the Mission Recruit website. It’s leaked down the show notes and use code GMB 20 for 20% off of your assessment. And again, even if you’re someone who maybe loves any grand, maybe you’ve never even taken the personality assessment. I think it’s really smart for all of us to have a good understanding of kind of who we are as leaders, as people, as members of a family or society. So definitely go use that code. Get your 20% off@missionrecoruit.com. All right, guys, let’s go ahead and jump into my conversation on human design today with Casha Jacozian.

All right, guys, I’m here with Kesha we’re going to be talking today about human design. I’m so excited because this is something that I am not super familiar with that I’ve been wanting to learn more about. So, Kesha, welcome to the Girl Means Business podcast. How are you?

I’m doing well. Thank you so much for having me today.

Speaker C: Yeah, I’m excited to get into this. So before we dive into all the things human design, tell us a little bit about who you are and what you do and how you got into this space.

Speaker D: Oh, my goodness. A loaded question, but the cold notes version is, my name is Casa. I am the human design expert over at Mission Recruit. Um, so I work with the founder and the team there to bring human design into the workplace. And essentially, what human design is a personality assessment that helps you really understand how to be yourself, who you are, and when you are working as part of a team, how to optimize your team performance and experience. And I sort of fell into human design in my late 20s almost like, five years ago. And it, um, really helped me understand who I was and how, uh, I best operate in the world. And really, since then, I’ve just been learning as much as I can about it and testing it out. Before working with Patricia was a human resources manager, the director of human resources for a hospitality group. We worked with quite a large team there. I worked with about 25 managers, and I knew there human design. And we really worked well together, uh, to kind of establish a rapport and establish a type of culture that brought the best out of everybody. And so using that as, um, an experimenting with that and then using that as a template for how we can kind of scale it and bring it into larger teams and more businesses and help managers, uh, and leaders learn how to use it themselves.

Speaker C: That’s awesome. I love it. Before I got into what I’m doing now, I was a teacher, um, for 13 years, 14 years, and for multiple times, like in the summers or the beginning of the school year, when we would do staff development, we would do personality assessments. So, like, the Myers Briggs is a big one. We would, um, do somewhere it was like, are you a lion or are you a goat or something? And I remember thinking, I never felt like they really fit with who I felt like I was. And so I just kind, um, of wrote them off. I was like, just one more box. We got to check on this thing. And then lately, I’ve been seeing a lot of these, like, the human design I’ve gotten really into, like, the Enneagram, and they feel, um, like they’re a little bit more on point. And so I’m curious to know kind of why you feel like that the human design assessment is maybe a little bit better equipped to help us understand who we are versus some of the older assessments that we may have done in the past.

Speaker D: Yeah, I love this question. Unlike pretty much every personality assessment tool, you’re required to fill out a form with choices that lead to a specific outcome. Right. So with human design, the only thing that determines your chart is your birth information. So the day you were born, the year born, the time there. So it makes this tool very objective. And when you are completing a personality assessment or when you have, you’re probably already aware of the archetypes that exist. And so as you’re filling it out, you’re kind of thinking perhaps in your head, subconsciously, well, how am I going to answer this in a way that I want people to perceive me or that I want my employer to perceive me? Because the reality is we all wish we could be someone or something else, and that’s okay. But understanding your human design and learning how to work with your own unique blueprint, it offers you a roadmap as to who you are. And that really creates an opportunity, um, for you to radically accept yourself who you are in your highest truth, without anything else really distracting you from wanting to be or do or feel like something else or someone else.

Speaker C: Yeah, I think that’s an interesting aspect to this, because when you message me, you said, we want to do this assessment with you, to send us your information. And I was expecting to have to do some kind of assessment. So when you were like, we just need your birthday, your location, and all that stuff, I was like, oh, interesting. But then I got the results you sent me, and I was like, oh, this is pretty spot on. It’s kind of crazy how accurate it can really be. So, um, similar to other assessments, there are, like, different archetypes that you fall into. So what are the ones that are part of the human design aspect?

Speaker D: Sure. So there are five energy types, essentially, is what it’s called. And there are. So each one has a specific superpower and sort of works with sort of their energy field a lot differently. So within those five, there’s various other layers that kind of make it more unique. So the most sort of populist one is a generator. That’s what you are. So we’ve got generators, uh, at 36% of the population, manifesting generators that are at 30%, projectors, which are at 22%, manifestors at 10%, and reflectors at 1% of the population. I’ve only met one reflector and worked with one out of, um, the hundreds of charts that I’ve read. So they’re like super rare energy. Uh, type essentially plays a critical role in how we all interact with each other. So generators and manifesting generators, they have powerful and magnetic energy that allows them to work and produce projectors guide teams and people with ideas and concepts and awareness. Manifestos are creating and initiating action to bring to life new projects and concepts that as a group, we’ve maybe never seen or considered before. A lot of, um, famous leaders, presidents are all manifesto. They’ve got that initiating energy. And lastly, reflectors. They act as a mirror to society and teams and individuals. They act as reflections to show us how and what we’re doing as a collective, which is pretty Rad.

Speaker C: So I’m curious, um, why you think so? I was taking out the notes here. The reflectors being only, like, one person of the population. That’s pretty small amount. Why do you think that is? Like, what is it that’s unique and different about them that makes it such a small portion?

Speaker D: Amazing. So, as I said, your human design chart is calculated using your birth time. And what creates, um, a body graph is a combination of Eastern and Western philosophies. So astrology, the itching, the Kabbalah, the Chakra system, uh, and lastly, quantum physics. So, so many sort of extraordinary things have to happen in the universe in order to get a reflector or have a reflector be born. A reflector in the human body graph. So if you look at your assessment, I think on the third page of your PDF, you probably saw this, uh, body with a bunch of shapes. Um, so you’ve got a few that are colored in a reflector. All of them are going to be white.

Speaker UNK: Okay?

Speaker D: In order for that to happen, the planets have to be in a specific arrangement, which is pretty, um, rare on an annual basis to happen or for that to happen. And so when all of the centers are clear, that means that there is energy that really isn’t able to flow, which is totally okay. And instead, what ends up happening is that person becomes essentially a very highly sensitive person to their environment. So they kind of absorb and see and then reflect out what it is that they’re experiencing. Whereas what’s different between a reflector and someone like you, who’s a generator is you’ve got some consistent, um, access to energy just based off of your chart itself. And so that is actually what you’re sharing out in the world and what you’re radiating and emanating. That’s your aura field. It’s a big, huge, beautiful aura that’s very juicy. And people are attracted to your vibe and attracted to, especially when you’re lit up and when you’re excited about certain things. People are going, um, to kind of be magnetized towards you.

Speaker C: It’s so interesting. Okay, so I want to go through kind of this blueprint that you sent.

Speaker D: Sure.

Speaker C: And I know visually, I’ll share some of this over on Instagram when this episode goes live. But listening to this, you won’t be able to see the visual part of this. But I do want to kind of talk through the blueprint that you sent. So going through, I see, um, that there is type, strategy, authority, and then leadership, archetype. So are those kind of the four things that it breaks down into? Okay, so like you said, my type was generator. And so explain a little, um, bit more about you kind of did a little bit what the generator is, but it’s someone who can create their own energy, correct?

Speaker D: Yeah. You’ve got consistent access to energy. You have the ability to, um, amplify that energy into the world. And specifically, you’re able to do that or you do that really easily when you’re doing something that you love. So some human design, uh, experts will say the generator is kind of like the Energizer Bunny of the human design system. Like, you have that ability to go, go. And you don’t really necessarily run out of battery. The key here is, um, to really discern ensuring that you’re doing something that you love. You have the energy to do everything. But that’s not necessarily the best thing for you. Because if you’re doing things that you don’t really love, you may be on a path, um, to burnout, or a path towards you will be on a path to burnout because you’re suddenly going to wake up one day and be like, why am I doing these ten things? I only really want to do too. And I’ve committed to these other things that I have to do. And in society, that kind of may look bad, quote, unquote. And you don’t want to do that until there’s this pressure to keep on going until you can find a way out. So you’re the person on your team that has that continual energy to get past some projects in. But as I said, you really just want to make sure that you are following your strategy and your authority, which is your decision making system, to ensure that you’re committing to things that really do resonate deeply with you so that you do have the energy and the excitement to carry it through to the end.

Speaker C: When you’re explaining it, that makes such sense, like I do. And that’s how I know when the whole covet hit and I got sick. And now, like, my energy level drops during the day. And that’s not normal for me because I’m so used to, like you said, just kind of go, go. But I also can see how, like, what you’re saying about the energy coming through when it’s something that I really am connected to, something that I enjoy doing because I do as a people pleaser tend to over commit to things. And then I find myself in these situations where I’m like, I don’t feel connected to this, I don’t feel excited about this. And that’s when the energy kind of drops off. Um, surprisingly accurate, because I will say, going into I was a little skeptical, just like I am of all things. I was skeptical of the Myers Briggs of the Enneagram, of all these other even like the horoscope type stuff. All of that is I’m very skeptical of until I start to see how it does kind of really match who I am at my core. And so, um, going through these results, I was like, oh, this is definitely like where it says you are fully in your element and flow. You bring energizing passion. And it’s this feeling of like, when I get into this space, like I was doing an interview on a podcast the other day and we were talking about business and being a mom and it’s like these things flow through me. This sounds very Woohoo, I know, but it’s like I can feel like this energy flowing through me and it’s almost like it’s not even me speaking the words. It’s just coming out of me in a way. And sometimes I listen back and I’m like, wow, that sounded really good. Where did that come from? And it kind of makes sense what you’re saying. That because of my human design, I’m able to generate this energy around things that I’m really passionate about and excited about. So that’s very interesting. One of the things on here that I thought, um, was interesting on my results was the gut instinct part. So it talks in here about being in tune with sort of your gut instincts. Can you talk a little bit more about that for sure?

Speaker D: So part of understanding, um, your human design is understanding your authority, which is the decision making system. So there is sort of like, I don’t want to say the word structure, but that’s the only one that’s coming to my head right now. There’s kind of a structure and a flow of how it is that you engage with life. So as a generator, your strategy, so how you engage with the world is to wait to respond. So, again, this feels very counterintuitive to kind of the way that we believe society is run because we’re kind of taught, um, to think and do and initiate. If you want something, you have to go for it. Whereas in human design, there are some types where that’s actually not necessarily in their best interests, because perhaps when you’re initiating, you’re initiating things that aren’t necessarily, quote, unquote, meant for you. So in the generator space, it’s really like if you are continuing to do things that you love, like you’re going to magnetize those opportunities towards you because you’ve got enough space. You’re literally creating enough space within your energy field and your life to allow things to come to you. And that’s when you notice, okay, you’ve got, like, let’s say this opportunity to start a podcast or you’ve got an idea to start a podcast. You’re not really sure where to go or how to do that. You can either start it or there’s going to be all these cues from the universe that are really going to give you that push to make it happen. And so once you’ve got an idea, once, um, you kind of see that interaction with the universe, you have an opportunity to basically respond, um, to that with a feeling from your gut. There are different types of authorities, and that doesn’t necessarily, um, speak to a specific type. So each type has two or three different ways that they make decisions, and some are the same. Like, for example, a manifesting generator and generator. Both can be a sacral authority, but a projector doesn’t.

Speaker C: That’s me a sacral authority.

Speaker D: A sacral authority. So your decision making is really by listening to your gut and by following what that gut feeling and that gut instinct says to you. And it comes in the form of either a hell yes or a no, right? My husband has a safe authority, and sometimes I’m like, Is it a yes or no? He’s like, I don’t know. Okay, well, how does it feel in your body? Does it feel like something that’s expansive? Does it feel like something that really. I feel really good about that? Or is it something that’s kind of restricting and contracting in your body too? That’s another way that I kind of like to look, um, at it. And, uh, if you have generators, uh, in your family, especially children who may have a sacral authority, you’re going to see that sort of manifest itself in grunting. So, like, little kids just like, yeah, I do want that, mom. I do want that, dad. Whereas it might be like, no, right? And that is literally their human design, speaking for them subconsciously. So being able to work with your sacral means that you’ve got to be in tune with your body and in tune with sort of your higher mind. You’re not necessarily rationalizing it with your brain. It’s something that you have to kind of sink in a little bit deeper, uh, and be able to really feel, um, that feeling from deep within your body.

Speaker C: It doesn’t actually use words because I’ve always said I am a very emotionally, I guess I’m an emotional decision maker, whereas my husband is more of a rational decision maker. And so when we’ve had to make certain decisions in our life, whether it’s about careers or family or this or that, I have exactly what you’re saying. Like, I kind of have this instinct of like, it’s either a yes or a no, whereas he needs it to be like, okay, but let’s look at it on paper and let’s talk it out and let’s pros and cons and all those kinds of things. And so it does make sense that when I have listened to what my gut has said, when I’ve listened to that yes or no feeling, that it tends to work out. It’s when I go against that. But I’m like, okay, it feels like a no, but I want it to be a yes. So I’m going to go do it anyway. Then it kind of ends up being a flop. So it’s interesting to knowing, like when you have to listen to that voice inside saying one thing or the other, because it’s there for a reason for sure.

Speaker D: And it gets all sort of lessons. I mean, human design is also known as the human design experiment. It’s not meant to be dogmatic. And so for the people who are listening to this and kind of skeptic, I invite you to just try, see what happens when that sacral feeling inside of you saying no, and you go on and do it anyway. How do you feel about that the next day, a week later, a month later? Did you even finish? Did you even carry through? And then what happens, uh, when you do follow your bliss, when you do get that sacral? Yes. And you do go for it and all the other opportunities that come out of it and all the other beautiful things that come out of it as well, nothing is good or bad. It’s not that binary again, it will all lead you to wherever it is, um, that you’re meant to be. Just some is going to have resistance and some is going to be a little bit. You’re going to have more ease with that and more flow.

Speaker C: Yeah. So you talked about how you do this for companies and groups that work together. So I want to talk about a couple of things here. And one is a lot of people listening to this podcast work as solope premiers, because you talk a lot about knowing this, how it relates as far as working with a team. But how does knowing your human design and having this information help you if maybe you’re not working with a team, you’re just you in your business. Obviously, you’re not just you and your whole life, that’s part of it. But how does this relate as far as someone who’s like, well, it’s just me doing this.

Speaker D: I would say the most useful thing as an entrepreneur is really just being like, what’s next? What do I do next? How do I get the most out of X? When do I know when you’re engaging maybe in partnership? Whether that partnership is right or best for you and your business attuning to your strategy and your authority in your human design is going to make a world of a difference for how you engage with your business. So as a generator, you have the ability to go out and create and amplify that energy. But some types are non energy beings. For example, a projector is a non energy being. So they don’t have access to that sacral energy that you have access to. And so the way that they run their business is going to be very different from how you’re going to be running your business. And so if they understand their type, their authority and their strategy, they’re maybe going to feel less pressure to maybe run a business the way that you’re running your business, because that doesn’t really align for them. They are a little bit more prone to burnout. And for example, um, the strategy of a projector is to wait for the invitation. So a projector almost needs to be invited into something as opposed to waiting to respond or initiating, like a manifesto. Um, another type of authority that exists within human design is called the emotional authority that’s mine. I’m an emotional authority. And so for me, um, that means that I don’t make decisions in the moment like you. The idea is, um, to ride your emotional wave. And so if I make a decision when I’m in an emotional high, um, I may wake up the next day and be like, Why did I do that? Uh, I really don’t want to do that. And again, now I’ve over committed. Or now I’ve committed to something I don’t really want to do. And I’m going to now look flaky by saying no or blah, blah, blah. Yeah. That sort of mental gymnastics that you end up playing in your head to try and justify to that. So if you as a business owner or just as solopreneur as you said, just understand how your body works, um, and how you best engage with the world to get the maximum out of yourself, that’s going to make a world of a difference. And lastly, to something that we haven’t talked about yet is understanding your profile or your leadership archetype. And the way that I look at that is really like, how do other people see you? So it’s maybe not necessarily something that’s super conscious to who you are as a human being, but that’s how other people perceive and look at you. And there’s twelve different types of profiles. So your profile is 63 or what. I know it as the responsible adventurer. Um, and life is literally like your playground. You have likely spent at least the first 30, 35 years of your life experimenting, trial and error, lots of adventures, and really just trying to gather as much wisdom as you could through your own personal experiences and then sort of reflecting on that. And now you’re in this other part of your life now, or this other phase of your life now where now you’re sharing that wisdom, which is very much exactly what you’re kind of doing. Like, I took a look at your website. I took a look at your Instagram and your podcast. It’s really just an accumulation of all of your experiences. And now you’re sharing that with your audience and you’re sharing that with the world.

Speaker C: It makes me so happy to hear things like that, because I’m like, because we get into, uh, these mindsets of, am I on the right path? Am I doing what I’m supposed to be, uh, doing? But when you come in, you say, no. You’ve spent all this part of your life gathering knowledge, information and having adventures and going out and experimenting and failing and succeeding and all the things. And now you’re using that knowledge to help others. That’s exactly what I’m doing with my life, and that’s what I want to do with my life. And that’s what feels the best right now. But just to have kind of that confirmation, like, even just having somebody else or the human design aspect or even someone you’re talking to say that back to you. That’s what I feel like. A lot of this is information. It’s really interesting to hear and learn about who we are and how we work. But sometimes it’s also helpful just to kind of get confirmation of what you might have already known about yourself, to be like, okay, this really is because this is who I’m meant to be.

Speaker D: Oh, my goodness. It’s a system of radical self acceptance. I mean, if you think about. I know for me because I have a six in my profile, too. And that really is like the first 30 years, just you’re experimenting, and it doesn’t make any sense. It’s a very nonlinear experience. And so, again, thinking about society’s conditioning and sort of what’s happening, people probably around you, parents, family, are like, what are you doing? Like, why are you? I don’t understand. It’s not traditional. Right? And you’re just like, I’m fine, I’m good. Uh, I’m genuinely happy with what it is that I’m doing, and it’ll all make sense eventually. I’m not going to focus on that right now. I’m just going to continue to do what it is that’s exciting me, because I know that I will get there when I need to get there.

Speaker C: Yeah, absolutely. I love that.

Speaker D: Okay.

Speaker E: So I love this idea.

Speaker C: Um, of figuring out who we are and, uh, how we work, how we best accomplish things. So let’s say we talked about how it applies, um, as far as someone who’s maybe a solopreneur. But let’s say you are looking to build a team, whether that is just like hiring, um, a VA or a social media manager, or you want to bring somebody in to help you run a launch or whatever. How can we utilize human design when we’re looking at building that team? Because I think that’s a fear that a lot of us have is like, we’re handing over part of our business to somebody. So how do we know that we’re handing it over to someone that’s going to really get us and get what we do?

Speaker D: Amazing. I think you can use human design to understand the other human design types, so you know how you best operate. Now, you can use human design to understand how someone else best operates and optimize your team or optimize what your expectations are for them in a way. So you’re going to tailor it in a more unique way. So when I was a manager, I had a team of ten underneath me and there were a mix of manifests and projectors and generators and manifesting generators. And so the way that I worked with each of them was a little bit different. I knew some were able to make decisions in the moment like you being sacral. And some needed time to go through their emotional wave and process. And so I would design our meetings as an example, as a way to get the best out of them. So some needed to see the agenda a day or two before the meeting so they could prepare and know what they wanted to say. Some wouldn’t look at it until we were in the meeting. And that was okay. Basically what that did was that took away the judgment from me being like, well, they should be looking at this and preparing, but some people really just don’t need that. And so I had to really understand who they were in order to get that judgment out of it and really understand that, no, they’re actually going to offer me their best work in the moment, whereas some are going to offer me their best work the next day. Um, and so as their manager, I had to realign my own expectations to be like, okay, if this is what our goal is as a company, or if this is what my, um, goal is as an entrepreneur, how do I break it down in a way that’s going to allow everyone who I’m working with to achieve that goal? Even if they’re all going to go about it in a different way, more or less to some degree, I still need to make sure that I’m at the end as a founder. Getting there. And so how am I going to kind, uh, of break it down? At Mission, recruit offer leaders, especially manager teams and entrepreneurs. We have a workshop that helps them understand their, um, own human design and how they all work with each other and how they’re motivated and how went and recognized when someone’s off track.

Speaker C: Yeah. Because that was going to be one of my next questions was, if you’re looking at this, do you need to have a pretty good understanding of all the human design aspects so that you can kind of see what works best? Or is it just good to know kind of what they are so that you know how best to work with them?

Speaker D: You don’t need to know. It super in depth if you’re keen on it. Amazing. But as long as you, again, understand their type and what their type is and, uh, how they’re as a projector that’s someone who’s going to be able to guide and see. Whereas a generator, someone who’s going to be able to do maximum output for you. And a manifesto. If you have like a project manager or someone who is in, let’s say, like business development or a creative director, a manifesto, uh, is someone who’s going to just initiate all day long and throw ideas into your sphere that you may not have thought about. And so if you recognize that that’s what their talents are to offer you again. And that’s not necessarily, like, 100%. Like, um, everyone is still going to be able to offer different talents in some ways, and you understand as their type, what motivates them, um, primarily and how they’re off track. So there’s, like, literally keywords. So for a generator, you’re off track when you’re frustrated. So if you have a team saying, like, I’m frustrated, I’m frustrated, you’re like, okay, let’s talk about that. Or if you have a projector who’s bitter and you can normally tell you’re like, oh, God, that person is so bitter. Like, what has happened? Probably you can just be like, hey, what’s going on? Let’s talk about, um, it right. Creating that environment of psychological safety where you can be like, okay, I noticed that you’re disappointed. I noticed that you’re frustrated. I noticed that you’re angry. Let’s talk about that and figure out a way to get you back on track so that you’re feeling satisfied. If you’re a generator or at peace, if you’re a manifesto or you’re feeling successful in the work that you’re doing, if you’re a projector, that’s amazing.

Speaker C: I love it.

Speaker D: Yeah.

Speaker C: Because, I mean, it’s not just about, like, knowing yourself, but it’s knowing, like, if you’re managing a team. Again, like I say team. I think a lot of people think of a team as like, oh, well, I have people who come into an office every day, but it can be, like I said, you have a virtual assistant that works with you, or you’ve hired a social media. Like, just knowing those things and having them know kind of how you work and communicating those things, I think, is really, really beneficial. And just listening to this is great for parenting, too, because if, um, you can understand your kids a little better, we all want to understand our kids better. Especially my oldest one, getting into that preteen phase. And I’m like, I don’t understand the words coming out of your mouth. Like, I need to figure you out better. So I think just in general, having an understanding of who people are makes us better. Parents, wives, friends, coworkers leaders, all the things.

Speaker D: Yeah. Oh, this is incredible. For families as well. That’s its own team, if you think about it.

Speaker C: Yeah.

Speaker D: Um, and in that team, no one’s really the boss. You have to work together sort of synergistically in, um, order for everyone to be happy. And children, kids, teenagers. I think of myself, um, as a teenager, I didn’t know how to articulate my feelings well. And again, I modeled my behavior, um, after my parents, and that didn’t really align for me. And so then I took most of my 20s to figure out what that meant. Out of life, how do I make decisions? And so as a kid, you can kind of understand how you best operate. You’re kind of going into adulthood, um, without any of that conditioning that you’d, um, then have to work out somehow.

Speaker C: Yeah. Well, I think this makes it easy, too, because it’s not like you aren’t asking your kids to take an assessment where they have to answer questions they don’t really know how to answer. It’s all based on things that are not asking them to do something in response to that. This is all so fascinating. So tell everybody, because if someone is listening to this and they’re like, I need to know more about this, where can they go to get their own assessment? How can they get more information about this? What can they do?

Speaker D: Amazing. So we offer PDF assessments on the Mission Recruit website, as well as, um, one on one readings. So you can head over to Missionrecoats.com, either purchase the assessment or book with me there. And we are offering your listeners or the listeners today of the podcast a 20% discount using the code GMB. Um, 20. And so go ahead. Uh, there and. Yeah, be so excited to create an assessment for you or read your chart.

Speaker C: Yeah, I think that’s awesome. And I will have that link and the discount code in the show notes to follow, um, or to go grab. But thank you so much for coming on and talking about this. It’s so fascinating. I love learning something new. A lot of times I’m in the conversation with people and sharing my own thoughts, and this was really fun to kind of get to be the student and get to learn how this is working and how it applies to me with my own assessment. So thank you so much for that. How can people follow you on social media or get in touch with you if they want to chat with you? Again, I know you mentioned the website, but you have social media links as well.

Speaker D: Yeah. Mission Recruit is our Instagram Instagram as well. So you can find us on, uh, Instagram there. Perfect.

Speaker C: Uh, well, thank you so much for joining me today. I really appreciate it. I know everybody listening probably learned a ton, and I can’t wait to see what their human design assessment comes out of. So thank you, um, again, for being here. I really appreciate it.

Speaker D: It was my pleasure. It’s such a blast.

Ep 159: Human Design with Kasia Jakarsezian